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so does that play a role in how cuccinelli is being stumped for? >> well, look, it plays a big role. terry mcauliffe, he's been sidelined in this election. he's under enormous ethical scrutiny. so what you have is a situation where terry mcauliffe is relying on outside political stars. people like marco rubio, people like rand paul. these are the political figures that ken cuccinelli is relying on to come in from out of the state to campaign for him. like terry mcauliffe is trying to rally his base in the closing doors, ken cuccinelli who is behind in this race, he's trying to rally his conservative base but he's not going to be able to do it with virginia's incumbent governor so it's a big loss for the campaign. >> alex, great to see you. i appreciate it. >>> so a slam dunk endorsement. it's time now for the poli side bar. as we mentioned, nine days until new jersey voters go to the polls and basketball great shaquille o'neal is throwing a pass to a candidate in that state, republican governor chris christie. take a look at his new ad endorsing ch
so does that play a role in how cuccinelli is being stumped for? >> well, look, it plays a big role. terry mcauliffe, he's been sidelined in this election. he's under enormous ethical scrutiny. so what you have is a situation where terry mcauliffe is relying on outside political stars. people like marco rubio, people like rand paul. these are the political figures that ken cuccinelli is relying on to come in from out of the state to campaign for him. like terry mcauliffe is trying to...
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if he gets that high, that hurts cuccinelli. you could if mcauliffe wins have the fourth governor in the state of the virginia above the mason dixon line -- >> no state has better reflected what they call the center of american politics or the nation's changing demographics, which is your point. and the numbers here in the last two presidential contests, the state's popular vote exactly matched the national popular vote as well. >> it's remarkable. and since 1973, every time there's been a democratic president, the state goes opposite of whose in the white house. if mcauliffe wins, he would end that trend, which would be quite significant because it could be a about barometer of where the country is going. since 2010, you've seen within virgin virginia huge increases of latino voters and asian voters. democrats have really moved to get them to the polls and from what we've heard so far, they seem to be doing a decent job of it. thank you, luke, great pleasure having you on. >> let's go to richard liu, who spoke with voters who c
if he gets that high, that hurts cuccinelli. you could if mcauliffe wins have the fourth governor in the state of the virginia above the mason dixon line -- >> no state has better reflected what they call the center of american politics or the nation's changing demographics, which is your point. and the numbers here in the last two presidential contests, the state's popular vote exactly matched the national popular vote as well. >> it's remarkable. and since 1973, every time there's...
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. >> our latest nbc news maris poll shows an 8 point lead over his opponent ken cuccinelli. mark, you're the first read team, wrote about the race and position it what we're watching take place in new jersey as well. >> two things going on. on the one hand in the republican party, you have what is seen -- kind of playing out in virginia where republicans say we need to be a conservative party first and foremost. in new jersey, where chris christie is running for re-election, you end up having a different argument where chris christie who is conservative, is saying we need to win races first and foremost. almost electability versus ideology argument playing out. chris christie appears to be cruising towards re-election and ken cuccinelli is trailing mccalliffe. >> as exploring this as the 2016 proxy fight between clinton and christie. >> one of the reasons it's a proxy fight, a lot of people working on the terry mccalliffe campaign, there are folks who wouldn't play a big role in the hillary clinton for president campaign, on the other hand chris christie doing well in the ex
. >> our latest nbc news maris poll shows an 8 point lead over his opponent ken cuccinelli. mark, you're the first read team, wrote about the race and position it what we're watching take place in new jersey as well. >> two things going on. on the one hand in the republican party, you have what is seen -- kind of playing out in virginia where republicans say we need to be a conservative party first and foremost. in new jersey, where chris christie is running for re-election, you end...
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he was out there campaigning for ken cuccinelli. andterry mccaulive is saying why didn't he disassociate himself from him? why didn't he have him out here. virginia has a lot of government employees. so cruz is a real problem for cuccinelli in virginia. >> interesting. one week from tomorrow. late-breaking news today. a federal judge has ruled the abortion restrictions passed by the texas legislature in july are unconstitutional, and will not take effect as planned on tuesday. the judge said the regulations violated the rights of abortion doctors to do what they think is best for their patients, and would reasonably restrict a woman's access to abortion clinics. the proposed restrictions were among the toughest in the nation, and gained national attention after wendy davis' high-profile filibuster. governor rick perry vows to fight the ruling. connie, what's your reaction to this? what is the -- the political -- how damaging is this to the conservative movement? >> well, it's particularly interesting, one of the p provision attentio
he was out there campaigning for ken cuccinelli. andterry mccaulive is saying why didn't he disassociate himself from him? why didn't he have him out here. virginia has a lot of government employees. so cruz is a real problem for cuccinelli in virginia. >> interesting. one week from tomorrow. late-breaking news today. a federal judge has ruled the abortion restrictions passed by the texas legislature in july are unconstitutional, and will not take effect as planned on tuesday. the judge...
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they're going to blame cuccinelli. >> cuccinelli has managed to turn abortion, access to birth control and reproductive choice and women's health services into a wedge issue favoring democrats in the state of virginia. >> absolutely. >> it's a pretty remarkable accomplishment. >> that's an achievement. >> it's like through the culture war looking glass. >> but so much of this is tone. cuccinelli is actually not that much more conservative than bob mcdonnell who solidly won four years ago, but mcdonnell comes off as a business conservative suburban guy, where ken cuccinelli feels like the bible -- >> like a culture warrior. >> and pro-life. >> he has a tone problem, too, though. >> i don't think he does. >> he can be conciliatory, but also jabs his finger in people's faces and calls them names. >> people like that -- >> people in new jersey like that. >> new jersey's a state that spends more than $19,000 per pupil on education, 70% more than the national average, so teachers union is popular -- >> but also does quite well. the thing that was missing today, he wanted to cut a lot more fr
they're going to blame cuccinelli. >> cuccinelli has managed to turn abortion, access to birth control and reproductive choice and women's health services into a wedge issue favoring democrats in the state of virginia. >> absolutely. >> it's a pretty remarkable accomplishment. >> that's an achievement. >> it's like through the culture war looking glass. >> but so much of this is tone. cuccinelli is actually not that much more conservative than bob mcdonnell...
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. >> we want more leaders like your next governor, ken cuccinelli. >> we're voting against cuccinelli for the governor's position. >> i want synchro nicety in government. ken cuccinelli is not supportive of our president's agenda. >> i'm scared to death of what obama care is doing to virginia virginians. >> nobody likes a cry baby. >> everything they're talking about, it's about undoing the progress. >> grind progress to an absolute halt. >> it's about undoing the progress that the vast majority of the american people think was progress. >> now, we didn't get universal health care, we didn't get the public option. but we got some good things. we moved forward. >> it is the working man's friend, and god bless him. >> i'm ready for round two! i'm ready for round two. >> the whole nation is looking at this race. that's not hyperbole. >> the whole country is waiting for your choice. ♪ goodbye stranger ♪ it's been nice ♪ hope you find your paradise >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. let's talk about virginia. it's women's rights, it's voting rights, it's
. >> we want more leaders like your next governor, ken cuccinelli. >> we're voting against cuccinelli for the governor's position. >> i want synchro nicety in government. ken cuccinelli is not supportive of our president's agenda. >> i'm scared to death of what obama care is doing to virginia virginians. >> nobody likes a cry baby. >> everything they're talking about, it's about undoing the progress. >> grind progress to an absolute halt. >> it's...
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the shutdown hurt cuccinelli? >> there's no doubt the shutdown hurt cuccinelli. and like connie was saying, this is a very tough time to be saddled with the republican brand. and if this is indeed a referendum on obama care, i would be very nervous if i were national republicans. because if you look at the polling over the course of the last weeks and months, even now when we're in the heat of the battle, as it relates to the affordable care act, terry mcauliffe's polling has continued to be steady, and the enthusiasm hasn't worn off. this is a referendum. it looks like the referendum is going in favor of obama care. >> bill, what about this picture right here, bill clinton, very close to mcauliffe, and has been for years. hillary clinton has been there. the president is there. was there on sunday. the vice president has been there. i mean, the democrats clearly want virginia in the big picture what's it mean? >> well, and also the first lady has been there. what it means -- what it means is that we're going to have a strong, progressive governor in an important
the shutdown hurt cuccinelli? >> there's no doubt the shutdown hurt cuccinelli. and like connie was saying, this is a very tough time to be saddled with the republican brand. and if this is indeed a referendum on obama care, i would be very nervous if i were national republicans. because if you look at the polling over the course of the last weeks and months, even now when we're in the heat of the battle, as it relates to the affordable care act, terry mcauliffe's polling has continued to...
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if he's around 10% hurts cuccinelli. last factoidf mcauliffe pulls this off, which indications are he would, he will be the fourth governor in a row of virginia to have not been born in the state and come above the mason dixon line. we're a long way from old virginia, my friend, a long, long way. >> i love when you end segments like that. my friend luke russert, thank you for putting up with me and thank you for your reporting. >> take it easy. >>> despite criticism of post sandy embrace with president obama, chris christie has remained ahead in the new jersey gubernatorial roles. don't let his moderate profile mislead you. chris christie is a classic conservative. we'll discuss that next on "now." if yand you're talking toevere rheuyour rheumatologistike me, about trying or adding a biologic. this is humira, adalimumab. this is humira working to help relieve my pain. this is humira helping me through the twists and turns. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humi
if he's around 10% hurts cuccinelli. last factoidf mcauliffe pulls this off, which indications are he would, he will be the fourth governor in a row of virginia to have not been born in the state and come above the mason dixon line. we're a long way from old virginia, my friend, a long, long way. >> i love when you end segments like that. my friend luke russert, thank you for putting up with me and thank you for your reporting. >> take it easy. >>> despite criticism of post...
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ken cuccinelli. >> homophobic, birther friendly, big three hating ken cuccinelli. >> the commonwealth chooses a new governor. >> the re-election for virginia governor is days away. >> virginia has a history of getting it right. >> and our number one story to watch, canadian comedy. >> if ted cruz gave up politics, do you think he'd have a viable career as a stand up comedian? >> have you met ted? >> ted cruz will appear on the tonight show. >> he vows to keep speaking until he is no longer able to stand. >> and now the dr. seuss bible. >> if he collapses from exhaustion, he'll be covered under obama care. >> if you keep talking they can't throw you off. it's a real rule. >> he is trusted and fair. >> listening to ted cruz, how awful is that? >> everyone laughs, but where's the next joke? >> joining me now talk radio consultant holland cook. good to have you with us tonight. i don't want to date both of us, but what is the name of that old show where the announcer said will the real ted cruz please stand up. >> please stand up. ed, hello from boston home of your world champion red sox
ken cuccinelli. >> homophobic, birther friendly, big three hating ken cuccinelli. >> the commonwealth chooses a new governor. >> the re-election for virginia governor is days away. >> virginia has a history of getting it right. >> and our number one story to watch, canadian comedy. >> if ted cruz gave up politics, do you think he'd have a viable career as a stand up comedian? >> have you met ted? >> ted cruz will appear on the tonight show....
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cuccinelli has been hard core on everything, including issues around voting access. mcdonnell actually seemed to suggest a different direction, and he talked about restoring some voting rights to former felons who are disproportionately african-american, and that's a voting pool some people think by estimates would probably be more democratic. and that really is on one issue the sort of -- the sort of irtext of this campaign, where mcdonnell has been a slightly more moderate republican, cuccinelli has gone to the right. what does that remind us of? all the moderates who are being sort of hunted down and bullied by the new freshman republicans who see themselves in the house as the next generation. and that goes to a larger question. look, you can't read too much into one state. having said that, it's true that virginia was 53% for obama, just like the rest of the country. to, you know -- to professor sabhato's points, it's light blue place coming out of republican roots. and that is what's going to scare republicans around the country, if you have a big mcauliffe vic
cuccinelli has been hard core on everything, including issues around voting access. mcdonnell actually seemed to suggest a different direction, and he talked about restoring some voting rights to former felons who are disproportionately african-american, and that's a voting pool some people think by estimates would probably be more democratic. and that really is on one issue the sort of -- the sort of irtext of this campaign, where mcdonnell has been a slightly more moderate republican,...
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. >> reporter: ken cuccinelli the personification of the tea party. the polls say he is going to lose. his demise in virginia could be a sign of things to come. >> all right, joining me now is congressman gerry connolly, a democrat from virginia. congressman, thank you for taking some time tonight. i want to get to that election in virginia and what it says about where the country is and where the country is going, it's only five days away. but first i want to start at the basic issue of the poll numbers for the president today, which made so much news today. you heard that repetition in the package we just played there. george bush territory, the idea that here in his fifth year as president, president obama now falling to a level about where george w. bush was at this point in his fifth year. what do you make of the numbers you're seeing for the president right now, just as a democrat, as a member of his party, what do you attribute it to and are you worried about it? >> you know, i think every president has a rough patch. i'm old enough to remember
. >> reporter: ken cuccinelli the personification of the tea party. the polls say he is going to lose. his demise in virginia could be a sign of things to come. >> all right, joining me now is congressman gerry connolly, a democrat from virginia. congressman, thank you for taking some time tonight. i want to get to that election in virginia and what it says about where the country is and where the country is going, it's only five days away. but first i want to start at the basic...
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he's running against ken cuccinelli. president obama is scheduled to campaign with mcauliffe this sunday. former president clinton has been stumping for him for days. the mcauliffe message has turned into a push to simply get out to vote. he has a double-digit lead over cuccinelli. a new poll shows among supporters 34% of for mcauliffe. 64% of his voters are voting against cuccinelli. cuccinelli brought in his own heavy hitters. senator rand paul stumped for the republican. of course they got a lyibertarin candidate they're anxious about. let's bring back our gaggle. you deal with turnout issues. how much do you feel as if -- have you noticed in some of the limited elections you're dealing with in ohio this year, it's an off year, that people are lessen gauged than they have been in years past? they are a little bit because the get out to vote machine that happens in a presidential election does not happen in statewide -- >> so you think that's what it is? you don't feel like there's a complacency issue? >> it's really h
he's running against ken cuccinelli. president obama is scheduled to campaign with mcauliffe this sunday. former president clinton has been stumping for him for days. the mcauliffe message has turned into a push to simply get out to vote. he has a double-digit lead over cuccinelli. a new poll shows among supporters 34% of for mcauliffe. 64% of his voters are voting against cuccinelli. cuccinelli brought in his own heavy hitters. senator rand paul stumped for the republican. of course they got a...
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he will stump with cuccinelli in culpepper. in an admission that libertarian candidate is syphoning off republican votes, the election day eve rally is with the libertarian hero himself, ron paul. what message will they take away from a bruising defeat in virginia. the non-tea party wing of the party is trying to flex their muscles. expect more i told you sos. do they claim that the cuccinelli loss was because he was too muted and because of the advisers didn't let ken be ken or does the prevailing view hold that when you hold the center, you are doomed to lose? swing states? the guy who went for a non-tea party strategy is taking a page from george w. bush's playbook trying to prove electability to national republican donors and republicans across the country and hope he ends up on wednesday morning the front runner of the establishment wing for 2016. the campaign is not hiding the message. look at the release called blue jersey. in the overwhelming democratic garden state, no republican candidate has earned higher than 50% of
he will stump with cuccinelli in culpepper. in an admission that libertarian candidate is syphoning off republican votes, the election day eve rally is with the libertarian hero himself, ron paul. what message will they take away from a bruising defeat in virginia. the non-tea party wing of the party is trying to flex their muscles. expect more i told you sos. do they claim that the cuccinelli loss was because he was too muted and because of the advisers didn't let ken be ken or does the...
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he linked republican ken cuccinelli to the national tea party. let's see if he made the proper connection. take a look. >> you've seen an extreme faction of the republican party that has shown again and again and again that they're willing to hijack the entire party and the country and the economy and grind progress to an absolute halt if they don't get 100% of what they want. if you embrace the very politics that led to this shutdown, then i guarantee you, it's not in the rear-view mirror of voters in virginia. they remember. they understand that that is not how you govern and that is not how you move america forward. >> so, larry, cuccinelli's campaign is predicting that the president's presence there would energize republican voters who were outraged over the botched rollout of obama care. is there a chance that cuccinelli could pull out a last-minute win because of the problems with the obama care website and not about what's in the rear-view mirror of the shutdown? >> you know, i always say there's always a chance, because every now and then
he linked republican ken cuccinelli to the national tea party. let's see if he made the proper connection. take a look. >> you've seen an extreme faction of the republican party that has shown again and again and again that they're willing to hijack the entire party and the country and the economy and grind progress to an absolute halt if they don't get 100% of what they want. if you embrace the very politics that led to this shutdown, then i guarantee you, it's not in the rear-view...
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ken cuccinelli has not pulled it off. chris christie has. terry is not what one would call a right fit candidate for the old virginia. one of the things that's true about virginia is it's changed a lot. there is a reason barack obama was able to win in 2008 and 2012. there are transient voters, young, hispanic voters there. the state profile is different than it was even ten years ago. it puts him in the position mark said because of the financial vanl he's had in a position to win. i don't ting he'll win by eight points. >> yeah. >> he's going to end up closer to three or four. it looks like he was going to win. >> so much of politics has to do with personal style. bob mcdonald, every bit as conservative as cuccinelli. every bit as conservative. and the guy won by, what, 20 points? the year after barack obama had his massive victory. even before all the obama care dust-up of 2010. i mean, he just wiped the democrats out. so you've got to look at chris christie and bob mcdonald. there are ways to win in these purple-blue states. but you've g
ken cuccinelli has not pulled it off. chris christie has. terry is not what one would call a right fit candidate for the old virginia. one of the things that's true about virginia is it's changed a lot. there is a reason barack obama was able to win in 2008 and 2012. there are transient voters, young, hispanic voters there. the state profile is different than it was even ten years ago. it puts him in the position mark said because of the financial vanl he's had in a position to win. i don't...
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not endorsing cuccinelli. a number of high profile republicans not supporting the ticket at this point. there is a lot of rethinking. remember the party is controlled by the nomination process which happens to be convention at this point. a very conservative central committee. so for all of this i think it will take a few years to sort out. this is not going to sort out overnight, look, the election is not over. you had about five polls with different turnout models. this is all about turnout. the real question is what will happen in the legislature, a an appreciable number of seats. they'll hold it. chris christie in new jersey, winning in a blue state, virginia appears to be in per im. so it says something about the party? steve, the republicans in virginia are very slow learners. a few years ago, they didn't want tom davis to be their candidate for the united states senate and so they refused to have a primary which tom probably would have won and they had their convention and produced a candidate who could
not endorsing cuccinelli. a number of high profile republicans not supporting the ticket at this point. there is a lot of rethinking. remember the party is controlled by the nomination process which happens to be convention at this point. a very conservative central committee. so for all of this i think it will take a few years to sort out. this is not going to sort out overnight, look, the election is not over. you had about five polls with different turnout models. this is all about turnout....
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dynamite against cuccinelli, mainly. they got to get home from work on the shirley highway by 7:00 and vote. that's tough. >> before you get to the occoquan. >> you look at these things with some precision. >> so many things have worked against ken cuccinelli. it's almost like a perfect storm. >> it was. let's start from the very beginning. ken cuccinelli was a flawed candidate going in. here you are in a swing state. >> they forced a primary, they forced a convention, attention recognizes, if you want to get candidates that don't have broad support please force a convention and lose. >> terry mcauliffe's campaign on friday did a post mortem but making a few points. they said terry mcauliffe had a luxury that ken cuccinelli didn't, which is if you move to the center and you're a democratic nominee your base doesn't punish you. your base doesn't get angry. you move to the center as a republican nominee and the base gets angry. and we can actually see it in new jersey with chris christie. there's not a large tea party base
dynamite against cuccinelli, mainly. they got to get home from work on the shirley highway by 7:00 and vote. that's tough. >> before you get to the occoquan. >> you look at these things with some precision. >> so many things have worked against ken cuccinelli. it's almost like a perfect storm. >> it was. let's start from the very beginning. ken cuccinelli was a flawed candidate going in. here you are in a swing state. >> they forced a primary, they forced a...
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all signs are pointing to a historic landslide for different kind of republican than cuccinelli. the moderate and respected chris christie. how can two starkly different kind of republicans coexist in today's gop. mark cecil, the group responsible for expanding the democrats majority in the u.s. senate. and michelle goldberg is a contributor to the nation. i want to start with cecil. a guy looking across the aisle right now. tell me what it's like to face the possibility that christie could win really big tomorrow and possibly begin a resurgence of establishment republicanism, non-right wing republicanism. >> well, i can tell you in senate races around the country, that hasn't been the case. >> talk about new jersey. don't change the subject. talk about new jersey. what will be the impact if you get 65% or something win by christie and he begins to look like the image of the republican party. is that important or not? >> i think the impact is zero. when you look at what -- >> wait a minute. stop right here. if you're just going to flack, you're of no value to this show. you're te
all signs are pointing to a historic landslide for different kind of republican than cuccinelli. the moderate and respected chris christie. how can two starkly different kind of republicans coexist in today's gop. mark cecil, the group responsible for expanding the democrats majority in the u.s. senate. and michelle goldberg is a contributor to the nation. i want to start with cecil. a guy looking across the aisle right now. tell me what it's like to face the possibility that christie could win...
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take the lesson of a cuccinelli or a christie win into 2014? >> obviously, chris christie has certainly all the democrats worried. i mean, he's spoke to the base. he's spoke to the issues. he's legislatively has a good record. and the confusion from the liberal democrat side is, how is this guy winning? they like him. he's a likable candidate. he's personable. he's represented new jersey. and he's a jersey boy. he is. but how well that transfers out of new jersey is going to be the question of how they pivot when they do -- and it's obvious they're going to pivot. and you put him, bobby jindal, that we like, that you don't. >> that's right! >> i got it. i got it. and you put a whole string of our stars out there that are running states, the nikki haleys, the bobby jindals, the mitch daniels, the former governor now of indiana. you put all those out there and put them on the stage, our problem is, our stage is going to be so large, that the republican party is going to have to define who they are. nobody thought barack obama was going to win. he
take the lesson of a cuccinelli or a christie win into 2014? >> obviously, chris christie has certainly all the democrats worried. i mean, he's spoke to the base. he's spoke to the issues. he's legislatively has a good record. and the confusion from the liberal democrat side is, how is this guy winning? they like him. he's a likable candidate. he's personable. he's represented new jersey. and he's a jersey boy. he is. but how well that transfers out of new jersey is going to be the...
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all signs are pointing to a historic landslide for different kind of republican than cuccinelli. the moderate and respected chris christie. how can two starkly different kind of republicans coexist in today's gop. guy cecil, the group responsible for expanding the democrats majority in the u.s. senate. and michelle goldberg is a contributor to the nation. i want to start with cecil. a guy looking across the aisle right now. tell me what it's like to face the possibility that christie could win really big tomorrow and possibly begin a resurgence of establishment republicanism, non-right wing republicanism. >> well, i can tell you in senate races around the country, that hasn't been the case. >> talk about new jersey. don't change the subject. talk about new jersey. what will be the impact if you get 65% or something win by christie and he begins to look like the image of the republican party. is that important or not? >> i think the impact is zero. when you look at what -- >> wait a minute. stop right here. if you're just going to flack, you're of no value to this show. you're tel
all signs are pointing to a historic landslide for different kind of republican than cuccinelli. the moderate and respected chris christie. how can two starkly different kind of republicans coexist in today's gop. guy cecil, the group responsible for expanding the democrats majority in the u.s. senate. and michelle goldberg is a contributor to the nation. i want to start with cecil. a guy looking across the aisle right now. tell me what it's like to face the possibility that christie could win...
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casting cuccinelli as divicive. he urged democrats not to take anything for granted. >> the one political virtue of extremism is this. if you can really get people all hot and bothered and their inside is in knots, full of anger and steam coming out of their ears instead of a light bulb going off in their brains, they will vote. they will show up every time. >> republicans inside washington run against health care and republicans outside washington run against washington, democrats everywhere are running against the tea party. >> just recently my opponent, ken cuccinelli was campaigning at a gathering of his supporters with ted cruz. he refused to stand up for virginia and against ted cruz's shut down strategy. >> they love to criticize terry and say he's a deal maker. remember what we went through and i will say give me one. give me one. just one. >> clinton cast criticism with the health care site's rocky roll out as an unwillingness to govern. >> we have to implement this law and the computer deal will get fixed
casting cuccinelli as divicive. he urged democrats not to take anything for granted. >> the one political virtue of extremism is this. if you can really get people all hot and bothered and their inside is in knots, full of anger and steam coming out of their ears instead of a light bulb going off in their brains, they will vote. they will show up every time. >> republicans inside washington run against health care and republicans outside washington run against washington, democrats...
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terry mcauliffe is facing off against ken cuccinelli. the gop has built the race as a referendum on obama care. bill de blasio is slated to become the first gm to lead new york city since 1989. polls have given him huge leads. and in new jersey, governor chris christie is hoping for a second term. barbara would ypaints him as so who wants to be president, not governor. and now to the latest on obama care and the fight to fix it. if you tried logging on this morning, you probably noticed it was off line. operators temp operators temporarily shut down the sight to make updates. >> perhaps the most important lesson the president failed to learn was you have to tell the american people the truth. and when he told the american people that you could keep your health insurance if you wanted to keep that plan, period, he said that time and again, he wasn't telling the truth. >> but governor, on that point -- >> i think that fundamental dishonesty has really put in peril the whole foundation of his second term. >> romney also responded to the rep
terry mcauliffe is facing off against ken cuccinelli. the gop has built the race as a referendum on obama care. bill de blasio is slated to become the first gm to lead new york city since 1989. polls have given him huge leads. and in new jersey, governor chris christie is hoping for a second term. barbara would ypaints him as so who wants to be president, not governor. and now to the latest on obama care and the fight to fix it. if you tried logging on this morning, you probably noticed it was...
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you have cuccinelli down by 24 points among women. you have christie, who is leading with women by 23 points. perry, is this the moment when the republican party maybe learned something in terms of their messaging? i know that's what chris christie is hoping for. >> i think it is. i think that we should be clear to say, even most republican candidates are not as bad as ken cuccinelli is. i don't want to read too much into this particular race -- >> does have a special way with the lady folks. >> exactly, a little bit unique. one thing to note, we talked about health care as well. chris christie is one of the few republican governors who embraced obama care, he's taken up the medicaid funding there. obama care doing pred pretty badly overall but tomorrow will be a victory because i assume terry mcauliffe, the promedicaid expansion and chris christie to the left of republicans also wins, something to think about as we move forward. the question for christie, he's hugged the questi eged the pres didn't hug him. >> he touched him. >> we w
you have cuccinelli down by 24 points among women. you have christie, who is leading with women by 23 points. perry, is this the moment when the republican party maybe learned something in terms of their messaging? i know that's what chris christie is hoping for. >> i think it is. i think that we should be clear to say, even most republican candidates are not as bad as ken cuccinelli is. i don't want to read too much into this particular race -- >> does have a special way with the...
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first read points out, in purple virginia, it's idea eelg with a very conservative ken cuccinelli in blue new jersey, electability with the conservative and pragmatic christie leading the ticket. one is doing better than the other. there's an interesting poll that came out in "washington post" that said 64% support mcauliffe and voting against cuccinelli. this idealogical extreme rhetoric from the ticket in virginia has been such a turf off to the moderate voters, they base beingally handed this on a matter. >> why you at home, even if you know nothing about virginia politics, krystal can weigh in. this is a battle for the republican party's soul right now. and there's a contingent that called romney republican in name only and feels they need to push more and more extreme. there's a swath of america looking for moderation in the republican party. i had a conversation with senator mccain where he said publicly several times, we need moderates. so those two races are described showing us that tension playing out in real time. it will be significant. >> seeing the clintons and potus an
first read points out, in purple virginia, it's idea eelg with a very conservative ken cuccinelli in blue new jersey, electability with the conservative and pragmatic christie leading the ticket. one is doing better than the other. there's an interesting poll that came out in "washington post" that said 64% support mcauliffe and voting against cuccinelli. this idealogical extreme rhetoric from the ticket in virginia has been such a turf off to the moderate voters, they base beingally...
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that's from ken cuccinelli. this hail mary as it described by our first read team is essentially to try to tie up what's happening with the health care website and some of the issues that's plaguing the administration in getting it off the ground with the race in virginia. >> absolutely. obama care continues to be dominant force right now in the race. both mcauliffe is running on it and supported it. you see on the right cuccinelli has already made it an issue saying vote for me if you don't like obama care. even obama has -- his team has said if mcauliffe does win, saying there's a referendum on obama care and people do like this law once going forward. >> the first read team going back to -- people should check it out, both thoughts on this. you're saying that the races, particularly new jersey and virginia, it's about minding the middle and the base, which is what your headline was, mark. >> tamron, the point we were trying to make, the sign of a really healthy party, when your candidate tries to appeal to th
that's from ken cuccinelli. this hail mary as it described by our first read team is essentially to try to tie up what's happening with the health care website and some of the issues that's plaguing the administration in getting it off the ground with the race in virginia. >> absolutely. obama care continues to be dominant force right now in the race. both mcauliffe is running on it and supported it. you see on the right cuccinelli has already made it an issue saying vote for me if you...
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look at ken cuccinelli, who is very, very conservative. some would say too conservative right now for the state. these are the type of races in off years where you wake up and you go holy cow, that just happened? >> there's a third party candidate. newspapers supporting none of the three. it is a wild situation. >> it is a wild situation. do a lot of the libertarians say wait, i can vote for the libertarian or have terry mcauliffe? if it's an eight-point spread, i will be shocked. >> politico's mike allen, thank you. have a great weekend. >> thank you, mike. sorry, mrs. obama. >> too late. >> what are you thinking. >>> coming up, a rare end to last night's thursday night football game. we'll show you that next in sports. ♪ ♪ hey lady! noooo! no! [ tires screech ] ♪ nooo! nooo! nooo! hey lady, that's diesel! i know. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains... you can't help but see the good. i'to guard their manhood with. trnew depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that's just for gu
look at ken cuccinelli, who is very, very conservative. some would say too conservative right now for the state. these are the type of races in off years where you wake up and you go holy cow, that just happened? >> there's a third party candidate. newspapers supporting none of the three. it is a wild situation. >> it is a wild situation. do a lot of the libertarians say wait, i can vote for the libertarian or have terry mcauliffe? if it's an eight-point spread, i will be shocked....
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you heard this morning, for instance, the campaign manager of fran cuccinelli, when they were talking about the shutdown, they were having a hard time, and now they're talking about obama care and his campaign is doing better ask bettnd better. the shutdown was not the right way, in my view, but with obama care, i would have taken the senate and the white house and replace it with something that's going to do a better job for the american people and let them keep the insurance they were promised they could keep in the first place. >> you mentioned ken cuccinelli running for governor in virginia. the new book is called "double down game change 2012." a lot of political entry. one aspect, governor, when you had a family owned plan, you actually voted against it. you questioned whether you should stay in the race and whether you could ultimately win. there is an argument that comes through in the book with some republicans that with the stakes so high in the 2012 election, did you not show enough fight? did you not want to win it enough? how do you rebut that charge? >> there is no quest
you heard this morning, for instance, the campaign manager of fran cuccinelli, when they were talking about the shutdown, they were having a hard time, and now they're talking about obama care and his campaign is doing better ask bettnd better. the shutdown was not the right way, in my view, but with obama care, i would have taken the senate and the white house and replace it with something that's going to do a better job for the american people and let them keep the insurance they were...
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one of the things you notice when you look, for example, at chris christie and ken cuccinelli is that friction, the difference between the tea party versus the establishment. and i want to play for you what conservative leader ralph reed says he thinks the republican party needs to do moving forward. >> you've got to say what you're for and not just what you're against. >> amen. >> it's not enough to be against obama care, what's your plan. secondly, you have to win some candidates who are effective messengers who can win people who even don't always agree with you on every issue. >> so how does the republican party move forward from here? what will you be looking for? what will poll numbers tell us? >> what i like is the republican establishment and republican elites kind of looking at the republican party and saying what ought to happen. but the fact is the voters -- the primary voters, the base voters of the republican party are the drivers of this. and they're the ones who give us these candidates that are elected in general elections. chris christie probably can't be nominated in
one of the things you notice when you look, for example, at chris christie and ken cuccinelli is that friction, the difference between the tea party versus the establishment. and i want to play for you what conservative leader ralph reed says he thinks the republican party needs to do moving forward. >> you've got to say what you're for and not just what you're against. >> amen. >> it's not enough to be against obama care, what's your plan. secondly, you have to win some...
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ken cuccinelli are mentioning the problems with obama. christie doesn't mention that. he says we need to work together. he is distancing himself from what some of the republican party is doing. >> ted cruz irreversible? >> not among republican voters. still when i talk to republicans in iowa, they think what he did was absolutely heroic for the party and he's not yet taken a real ding from that. >> governor romney also weighed in on the challenges that hillary clinton could face should she decide to run. listen to this. >> she's a very well known figure. obviously if she becomes a nominee, we'll be taking a very close look at her record as secretary of state and seeing what she actually accomplished and where america has gone. i think people will have to think that the last four years, last five years have not been a great time for america's interests around the world. she's responsible for part of that. >> peter, what's your sense? is benghazi the unspoken word in that comment he had made there? if so, how vulnerable could the former secretary of state be over her rec
ken cuccinelli are mentioning the problems with obama. christie doesn't mention that. he says we need to work together. he is distancing himself from what some of the republican party is doing. >> ted cruz irreversible? >> not among republican voters. still when i talk to republicans in iowa, they think what he did was absolutely heroic for the party and he's not yet taken a real ding from that. >> governor romney also weighed in on the challenges that hillary clinton could...
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bill clinton was out campaigning for terry mcauliffe and ken cuccinelli, his opponent, republican opponent bringing in rand paul. this is a special relationship. this goes beyond politic, bill and terry on the road again. >> the ultimate buddy movie. they have been paling around for years while he was in the white house, after the white house. i see them all sorts of different places. when the president wakes up in the middle of the night and wants somebody to play cards with or wants somebody to chat with on the phone or read drafts of his autobiography to, that was terry mcauliffe. for those of us who have covered him for many, many years, the thought of him being governor is an amazing new chapter in this buddy movie. >> i also wanted to ask about dick cheney because chris cillizza, dick cheney has been doing interviews, of course, about his new book, "heart." asked about the man running against liz cheney and this is what he had to say. >> mike and i also said we're fishing buddies, which is not true. never happened. the fact of the matter is washington is not going to elect the senato
bill clinton was out campaigning for terry mcauliffe and ken cuccinelli, his opponent, republican opponent bringing in rand paul. this is a special relationship. this goes beyond politic, bill and terry on the road again. >> the ultimate buddy movie. they have been paling around for years while he was in the white house, after the white house. i see them all sorts of different places. when the president wakes up in the middle of the night and wants somebody to play cards with or wants...
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scott walker will join republican ken cuccinelli on the final days and senator rand paul will be back in the old dominion after what can be described as a less than stellar week. he is sort of a tea party guy who is more acceptable to the establishment got this front page treatment in the national journal. this week he has been trying to beat back plagiarism charges. >> to disagree on how you footnote things and people do it differently in an academic paper than they do in a public speech. if we presented any of these for publication that had footnotes and a speech if people don't take the time to footnote things. it was clear that the plot line was not something i created. i department claim i created the movie. that's what is absurd. the plot line belongs to one person. the screen writer and i gave him credit for that. >> the office told nbc this. in the course of a 25-minute speech, he described the 34r09 of a movie and attributed it to the primary sources and no way saying it was his own thoughts or ideas. it has been submitted for academic tubication it would have been footnoted.
scott walker will join republican ken cuccinelli on the final days and senator rand paul will be back in the old dominion after what can be described as a less than stellar week. he is sort of a tea party guy who is more acceptable to the establishment got this front page treatment in the national journal. this week he has been trying to beat back plagiarism charges. >> to disagree on how you footnote things and people do it differently in an academic paper than they do in a public...